Office 365 Distilled EP 23: Taking a spray can and scalpel to Ignite 2019

The second podcast from Ignite! After some smoky dragon puffs (nitrogen cooked cheetos) we are ready to bring our spray can and scalpel!

We had lots of fun with Albert Hoitingh, Corinna Lins and Antje Lamartine in the Microsoft Security VR room, where we had to work together to stop a hacker by solving puzzles.

The VR Top notch cyber defense team !

Steve wonders if a team of 2 would get further then a team of 5. Because. Like an IT project, 2 are easier to manage.
Ofcourse Marijn disagrees, because there are too many steps to be done.

Governance is something you do with a scalpel, not with a spray can

Karuana Gatimu (Customer Advocacy Group lead from MSFT) had this quote in her session: Governance is something you do with a scalpel, not with a spray can.

It is not a chainsaw, not an axe or a sword.
Our take on it: don’t start with a blank wall and a spray can, same as you don’t take a scalpel and start cutting.

You have prepare this.
The scalpel is about the detail, the finesse.
Understand the conditions that Teams is being rolled out and manage it.

Under what conditions can Teams being used? Use the scalpel to manage who can create sites, what naming conventions you want, the lifecycle and classifications.

The spray can paints the picture of collaboration, taglining Teams. You can use the scalpel to draw along how your environment needs to look like.

With a spray can you add something.. With a scalpel you cut something away.

Baseline governance

With the baseline governance, we use an axe to cut down the big governance questions. Then we use the scalpel to do the finishing touches.

You need prerequisites: you can only start cutting when your patient is down. Make sure you are working on the right person, and the right bodypart.

If you are doing governance in Teams, you are doing governance in Groups. Instead of just talking about Teams or SharePoint, you need to talk about Groups.


Display templates are back, kind of.. You no longer need javascript and html, you will be able to use json to create html as result types..

Best bets are back, even more then before. You can have more then one best bet. The role of a search admin is back!

Governance around search is meant for someone who really understands business, not a role for IT.

The nice about is Search is that it just works out of the box. You will get a really good experience without lifting a finger.

Whisky at Hooters: Proper 12

A tradition for Steve and Marijn at Ignite is to have an after event on Saturday  in a Hooters bar. Chicken wings and football..and a view! We checked out the whisky menu and discovered there was a Proper 12 on the list.

It is an Irish whisky, so that makes Steve happy. It is a blend that Marijn really wanted to try out. It is pretty smooth and mellow, a good sweet drinking whisky. Lots of honey,popcorn, sweetcorn, irish smooth. No rough edges.

About: Marijn

Marijn Somers (MVP) has over 14 years experience in the SharePoint world, starting out with SP2007. Over the years the focus has grown to Office 365, with a focus on collaboration and document management. He is a business consultant at Balestra and Principal Content Provider for "Mijn 365 Coach" that offers dutch employee video training. His main work tracks are around user adoption, training and coaching and governance. He is also not afraid to dig deeper in the technicalities with PowerShell, adaptive cards or custom formatting in lists and libraries. You can listen to him on the biweekly "Office 365 Distilled" podcast.

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